Value & Emotion: Batja Mesquita in conversation with Valeria Maltoni.

“Our conversation ranges from the contours of ​‘shame’ and ​‘anger’ in different cultures, to the invention and uses of ​‘love’ and ​‘happiness’ in culture, how moving away and toward another human being or group works emotionally, and how emotions could tie into stories in the world, rather than being actual mental states.”

Here’s the Substack companion newsletter to the Traces&dreams podcast.